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jameshoggarth
-13th June 2008, 10:25
I just heard Richard is going to the Olympics.

Can anyone confirm this, and if so how did he qualify?

Spider5
-13th June 2008, 10:48
Good news if he is.

However, if he is going, is it wise to speculate on the process behind it given the discussions going on here? :rolleyes:

http://fencingforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10880&page=4

Marcos
-13th June 2008, 11:08
I just heard Richard is going to the Olympics.

Can anyone confirm this, and if so how did he qualify?

seems so through wildcard..!:not_worth

http://www.fie.ch/download/homepage/en/Qualifications.pdf

well done to him, anyone who has helped him, and the BFA

Libby
-13th June 2008, 11:11
It certainly looks as if he is on the list from the fie website:

http://www.fie.ch/download/homepage/en/Qualifications.pdf

Fantastic news!

madfencer
-13th June 2008, 11:12
Brilliant!!! He didn't tell me yesterday when I spoke to him!

hokers
-13th June 2008, 11:13
Woohooo!

What a result! Good luck Richard/sparring partners/coaches etc!

:D :D :D

Gangsta G
-13th June 2008, 11:25
Really good news

JackSparrow
-13th June 2008, 12:37
Brilliant news. Thought he had been really unlucky with injuries not to qualify by right in the first place. Best of luck Richard!

JackSparrow
-13th June 2008, 12:44
What I don't understand about those lists is why are there no Italian Women's Foilists qualified for the individual when they are curently first, second and forth on the FIE ranking lists?

Australian
-13th June 2008, 12:46
What I don't understand about those lists is why are there no Italian Women's Foilists qualified for the individual when they are curently first, second and forth on the FIE ranking lists?

because they have qualified as a team.

Scroll down and every team that has qualified enters 3 fencers in the individual event.

cesh_fencing
-13th June 2008, 12:50
By it being on the FIE site you would have thought it is correct and final.

If so well done to Keith Smith on this as I am sure he has been very involved in securing Richard's Wildcard with the BOA & FIE.

I am sure we all look forward to another day of fencing to track closely during the Olympics and can only hope that Richard can get at least a round further than 2004 a secure medal.

Good luck...

Keith.A.Smith
-13th June 2008, 13:00
Dear All,

Richard has indeed been awarded an FIE wild card to compete in Beijing. We heard officially this morning so it has made Friday excellent.

We now have to wait for the BOA to approve this, but am confident there will be no problem.

I have been very busy on this issue and and so very pleased Richard has now qualified to fence in the Beijing Olympic Games. he certainly really deserves his place.

Best wishes,

Keith

cesh_fencing
-13th June 2008, 13:04
and can only hope that Richard can get at least a round further than 2004 a secure medal.

Apologies should be

and can only hope that Richard can get at least a round further than 2004 and secure medal.

TBennett
-13th June 2008, 13:29
Fantastic news.

Baldric
-13th June 2008, 13:33
Double Brilliant.

Well done Keith and other arm-twisters. Very best of luck to Richard.

Baldric

pinkelephant
-13th June 2008, 14:07
Excellent news. Well done all, and good luck Richard.

pigeonmeister
-13th June 2008, 14:40
BFA, and particularly Keith, deserve huge amounts of credit for pulling this off...

Massive congrats to Richard, he clearly deserved the wildcard.

Amee-Suu
-13th June 2008, 15:47
Richard,

FANTASTIC news. We are all sooooo very pleased for you. You deserve that wildcard. Well done to all those who worked to get it for him.

PM1
-13th June 2008, 18:57
Completely and utterly chuffed for Richard. Well done all :D

Meg_SF
-13th June 2008, 19:08
WAHOO! Well done and congratulations!

Ronald Velden
-13th June 2008, 23:25
Heard the good news from Richard today. Friday 13th is clearly not unlucky
for some.

I would like to congratulate also Ziemek who has worked hard to keep
Richard motivated over the last month.

Hopefully Richard will come back with a medal. After all Zagunis won
gold in Athens as a wild card!

grizz
-14th June 2008, 11:11
This is wonderful news, congratulations to Richard from all at Fighting Fit. This will be very inspirational to all our young fencers.

Jed

Swords Crossed
-14th June 2008, 16:18
Excellent! Well done Richard, We're all rooting for you and Alex!

AussieMongrel
-15th June 2008, 13:08
Great news!

TomA
-16th June 2008, 09:43
Brilliant news :)

hokers
-16th June 2008, 15:25
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/fencing/7456865.stm

Boo Boo
-16th June 2008, 20:31
Fantastic - hope that Richard is back at full fitness and everything comes together to reward his hard work in Beijing.

Boo

TomA
-17th June 2008, 20:08
Considering all the hard work that's gone into this, why isn't it on the BFA site yet? :)

Red
-17th June 2008, 22:20
The BFA doesn't seem to be able to do Shameless Self Promotion (TM) very well. Might have something to do with this very British concept of modesty and not blowing one's own trumpet.

It might also be due to the fact that they're waiting for BOA approval....

pigeonmeister
-17th June 2008, 23:07
Keith mentions it in his latest news, he also specifically thanks the Chief Exec of the BOA, so I wouldn't have thought any doubts in that regard can explain any possible reticence.

Keith.A.Smith
-18th June 2008, 07:49
Dear All,

It is in my latest News but also we are witing for a formal acceptance letter from BOA and then it will be in banner headlines.

The most important person in all of this is Richard and he and I have talked all about it to him.

Formally all members of Team GB have to be selected by the BOA. They will do a press release and we will post in on the BFA web page.

Fear not we do do know what we are doing, after all with help,we got Richard the place for Beijing in the first place.

Keith

Keith.A.Smith
-18th June 2008, 07:49
Dear All,

It is in my latest News but also we are waiting for a formal acceptance letter from BOA and then it will be in banner headlines.

The most important person in all of this is Richard and he and I have talked all about it to him.

Formally all members of Team GB have to be selected by the BOA. They will do a press release and we will post in on the BFA web page.

Fear not we do do know what we are doing, after all with help,we got Richard the place for Beijing in the first place.

Keith

Miss_P
-18th June 2008, 11:20
Well done BFA and Richard for securing the wild card. Let us hope the BOA do the right thing.

Hot Bot
-21st June 2008, 10:28
Well done Richard!
I know its very unlikely that they have rejected it, but any news about whether the BOA have accepted it?

Ronald Velden
-25th June 2008, 09:35
The BOA have posted on their official website that a second British Fencer
has been selected for Beijing and that he will be formally announced at
Lansdowne on Thursday. i assume it is Richard. Congratulations!

rpryer
-26th June 2008, 22:23
Richard's place has been confirmed by the BOA - as reported by the BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/fencing/7456865.stm)

riposteinprime
-27th June 2008, 09:25
No disrespect to Richard or Keith or Ziemek or Piers or anyone that has worked towards this selection but...

I do have mixed feelings about this. Sure from a British point of view it's great to have another fencer there, but he didn't directly qualify. What kind of message does it send out to developing fencers, suggesting that it's ok if your don't directly qualify, because with some politics and pressure we'll push you through anyways. If anyone can justify why Richard should gowhile say Marcel Fisher (SUI), current Olympic epee champion with 1.5x the FIE points that Richard has, stays at home I'd like to hear it.

That being said, good luck to him and seize this wonderful opporntunity.

Spider5
-27th June 2008, 09:50
No disrespect to Richard or Keith or Ziemek or Piers or anyone that has worked towards this selection but...

I do have mixed feelings about this. Sure from a British point of view it's great to have another fencer there, but he didn't directly qualify. What kind of message does it send out to developing fencers, suggesting that it's ok if your don't directly qualify, because with some politics and pressure we'll push you through anyways. If anyone can justify why Richard should gowhile say Marcel Fisher (SUI), current Olympic epee champion with 1.5x the FIE points that Richard has, stays at home I'd like to hear it.

That being said, good luck to him and seize this wonderful opporntunity.

I would say the message is, if you're a talented fencer who happens to be injured at the time the qualifiers occur, all is not lost.

The other message is that the BFA will fight for their fencers to give them the best chance (despite my somewhat rash tongue in cheek post earlier on). I bet there would be even more posts here complaining about the BFA not doing anything if there was an opportunity to get qualification that was not pursued because fencers had not qualified by some notional 'proper' route.

Red
-27th June 2008, 10:01
No disrespect to Richard or Keith or Ziemek or Piers or anyone that has worked towards this selection but...

I do have mixed feelings about this. Sure from a British point of view it's great to have another fencer there, but he didn't directly qualify. What kind of message does it send out to developing fencers, suggesting that it's ok if your don't directly qualify, because with some politics and pressure we'll push you through anyways. If anyone can justify why Richard should gowhile say Marcel Fisher (SUI), current Olympic epee champion with 1.5x the FIE points that Richard has, stays at home I'd like to hear it.

That being said, good luck to him and seize this wonderful opporntunity.

He did also get a last 8 at the last one.
Switzerland's influence with the FIE clearly isn't as great as that of GBR. It might help that GBR is hosting the next one too.

scottishsabreur
-27th June 2008, 11:02
No disrespect to Richard or Keith or Ziemek or Piers or anyone that has worked towards this selection but...

I do have mixed feelings about this. Sure from a British point of view it's great to have another fencer there, but he didn't directly qualify. What kind of message does it send out to developing fencers, suggesting that it's ok if your don't directly qualify, because with some politics and pressure we'll push you through anyways. If anyone can justify why Richard should gowhile say Marcel Fisher (SUI), current Olympic epee champion with 1.5x the FIE points that Richard has, stays at home I'd like to hear it.



That's the purpose of wildcards...Richard narrowly missed out on qualifying and was injured at the time. He fully deserves his place and I have no doubt that he will demonstrate exactly why he deserves to be there through his own fencing.

Mariel Zagunis was a wildcard in the last Olympics and won...did she not deserve to be there?

riposteinprime
-27th June 2008, 11:24
That's the purpose of wildcards...Richard narrowly missed out on qualifying and was injured at the time. He fully deserves his place and I have no doubt that he will demonstrate exactly why he deserves to be there through his own fencing.

But all things being equal he didn't qualify by the set criteria, so all things being equal he doesn't deserve to go.

That being said, if you get this kind of opportunity then grab it with both hands.


Mariel Zagunis was a wildcard in the last Olympics and won...did she not deserve to be there?

I believe Mariel was a replacement for a fencer not entered, not a wildcard... but I could be wrong.

Red
-27th June 2008, 12:19
But all things being equal he didn't qualify by the set criteria, so all things being equal he doesn't deserve to go.

That being said, if you get this kind of opportunity then grab it with both hands.



I believe Mariel was a replacement for a fencer not entered, not a wildcard... but I could be wrong.

She took the place from Nigeria when they backed out - still a 'wildcard' entry. That said, Richard should really thank the Chinese for being so strong across the board that they only used one or two of their eight host places.

Cuppa
-27th June 2008, 13:15
She took the place from Nigeria when they backed out - still a 'wildcard' entry. That said, Richard should really thank the Chinese for being so strong across the board that they only used one or two of their eight host places.

Mariel was next on the World rankings when the Nigerian OC decided at the last minute to not enter their qualified fencer$

Boo Boo
-27th June 2008, 18:10
Mariel was next on the World rankings when the Nigerian OC decided at the last minute to not enter their qualified fencer

Hhhhhhmmmm, so few words can mean so much... :(

Brilliant news for Richard though - well deserved :). Fingers crossed that he is able to fully capitalise on this opportunity and bring back a fantastic result.

Boo

Ronald Velden
-27th June 2008, 21:04
Ref: Riposteprime

I think that you misunderstand the 'wildcard process'.

Firstly the Chinese qualified all their fencers and therefore did not need
their allocation of 'discretionary' places.

Secondly Mens Foil, which did not have a team event was short of its
full complement of fencers. The FIE added therefore two fencers to
list. Richard happens to be the highest ranked fencer outside the nations
who qualified.

The suggestion by 'Red' that Britain has more influence than Switzerland
is somewhat ridiculous. The FIE is after all based in Lausanne!

Red
-27th June 2008, 23:34
The suggestion by 'Red' that Britain has more influence than Switzerland
is somewhat ridiculous. The FIE is after all based in Lausanne!

Not that ridiculous really, GBR has a man on each of the Executive, Rules, Refereeing, Athletes, Legal, Medical and Disciplinary Commitees of the FIE and two 'Members of Honour'. The Swiss are represented by a sole Member of Honour.


Thanks Cuppa for clarifying.

Ronald Velden
-28th June 2008, 09:27
Re: Red

I am well aware that Britain has a single representative on a large number
of Committees, but so what that does not mean that we can exert undue
influence. Past history suggests that Britain makes very little impact on
decision making of this organization.

Furthermore I am not even sure that we have someone on the panel who
made the Olympic Selections.

What is clear is that Richard was selected for one of the two places in
individual foil on merit as the highest ranked fencer from a non qualified
nation. The inuendo does great discredit to this athlete and also the BFA.

Keith.A.Smith
-28th June 2008, 19:58
Dear All,

I am amazed that some people seem to be complaining /questioning that Richard has been given a place in Beijing.

I for one used all the inluence I could muster in support of one of our fencers and am quite proud and unashamed about it.

Keith

grs
-28th June 2008, 23:19
What is clear is that Richard was selected for one of the two places in
individual foil on merit as the highest ranked fencer from a non qualified
nation. The inuendo does great discredit to this athlete and also the BFA.

With my limited knowledge of the workings of FIE, Richard has been selected by dint of two places being vacant due to qualifying criteria not being met and that Richard was the highest placed fencer next on the list being 1 hit short of qualifying.

Whilst politics comes into many decision making areas of 'selection' at national and international levels I cannot see how this is one of those occasions. Richard has been selected by right. Both Richard, Ziemek and the rest of the support team should receive our complete backing. Go Richard!!!:)

cesh_fencing
-28th June 2008, 23:32
I feel it is great that Richard has been selected

We should all be fully supporting Keith and anyone else who had any influence for helping in the place being secured. It is important for our sport to get our fencers to the Olympics.

I suspect Richard realises that he is probably quite lucky that the place opened up for him (via the wild card/unallocated places), however he now has the place and I am sure he will be training his rear end off to ensure he is in tip-top condition for the Olympics.

Good luck to both Richard & Alex and I hope you both have a great run up to the event.

riposteinprime
-30th June 2008, 08:45
Firstly the Chinese qualified all their fencers and therefore did not need their allocation of 'discretionary' places.

That's not true at all. There were only 6 wildcard places available China used up 2 extras to create a Men's Epee team with their zonal qualifier.


Secondly Mens Foil, which did not have a team event was short of its
full complement of fencers. The FIE added therefore two fencers to
list. Richard happens to be the highest ranked fencer outside the nations
who qualified.

This logic is rubbish too. There is no women's epee team event, and they only recieved one additional wildcard. There is no correlation between number of fencers and number of wildcards. Why shouldn't the next highest ranked WS or ME fencer go? They got zero wildcards.



Dear All,

I am amazed that some people seem to be complaining /questioning that Richard has been given a place in Beijing.

I for one used all the inluence I could muster in support of one of our fencers and am quite proud and unashamed about it.

Keith

Keith everyone is grateful for all the effort you put into British fencing and it's fencers. Richard has a fantastic opportunity that I'm sure you had a great deal in creating. Sometimes us underlings like to complain about the process.


With my limited knowledge of the workings of FIE, Richard has been selected by dint of two places being vacant due to qualifying criteria not being met .... Richard has been selected by right.

Why is there this assumption that MF had two places? As I understand it every place was discretionary, e.g. OUEDRAOGO Julien (BUR) http://www.fie.ch/Competitions/FencerDetail.aspx?param=D18E1CC3E800B58E3D206C8B1C B397CC for MS.


Both Richard, Ziemek and the rest of the support team should receive our complete backing. Go Richard!!!:)


I feel it is great that Richard has been selected

We should all be fully supporting Keith and anyone else who had any influence for helping in the place being secured. It is important for our sport to get our fencers to the Olympics.

I suspect Richard realises that he is probably quite lucky that the place opened up for him (via the wild card/unallocated places), however he now has the place and I am sure he will be training his rear end off to ensure he is in tip-top condition for the Olympics.

Good luck to both Richard & Alex and I hope you both have a great run up to the event.

I totally agree and have been saying this all along.

madfencer
-30th June 2008, 16:13
I do not understand why people are questioning Richard's qualification for the Olympics. He has had a good season, and has been proving for some time now that he is up there with the rest of the top world men's foilists. He was unlucky to be injured and doubly unlucky to lose by one hit in the qualifyers, having missed several A grades because of his injury so he could be fit for the qualifyers. He fully deserves his place.

Why don't we all stop questioning the decisions that have been made and support our fellow athletes?! They are extremely dedicated and talented individuals who deserve our support and it's not in our place to question the decision making process. Keith et al have done a fantastic job in securing Richard's place, so we should be thanking them and wishing both Richard and Alex well in their training in preperation for Beijing.

Richard reads this forum, as i'm sure do many other of our top athletes, and questioning like this does not portray us very well or give confidence to our fellow fencers.

Rant over :grin:

madfencer

Dalesman
-30th June 2008, 16:19
I do not understand why people are questioning Richard's qualification for the Olympics. He has had a good season, and has been proving for some time now that he is up there with the rest of the top world men's foilists. He was unlucky to be injured and doubly unlucky to lose by one hit in the qualifyers, having missed several A grades because of his injury so he could be fit for the qualifyers. He fully deserves his place.

Why don't we all stop questioning the decisions that have been made and support our fellow athletes?! They are extremely dedicated and talented individuals who deserve our support and it's not in our place to question the decision making process. Keith et al have done a fantastic job in securing Richard's place, so we should be thanking them and wishing both Richard and Alex well in their training in preperation for Beijing.

Richard reads this forum, as i'm sure do many other of our top athletes, and questioning like this does not portray us very well or give confidence to our fellow fencers.

Rant over :grin:

madfencer

I agree with you.

I think several people were not having a go at Richard (who does desreve to go) but questioning the process used that enabled him to go.

Ronald Velden
-30th June 2008, 20:18
Re: Riposteprime

You do the sport a great disservice by your comments, because
they are not constructive.What are you trying to prove?

Dealing with the points you made I would point out that discretionary places
are only allocated if the Federation applies on behalf of a fencer for these.
Perhaps there was only one applicant in womens epee unless of course
you know better.

The second point is that Angard Gaur [Holland] also received a discretionary
place in womens foil and she is only ranked 42 in FIE list. Nevertheless she
was the top placed fencer from a non qualified nation. No doubt you will have
a comment about her selection as well!

TomA
-30th June 2008, 20:38
I'd imagine that one of the reasons Richard Kruse got the place was due to his already impressive track record. The point of discretionary places is surely to make up for unfortunate circumstances (like injury) at key points in the season?


What kind of message does it send out to developing fencers, suggesting that it's ok if your don't directly qualify, because with some politics and pressure we'll push you through anyways. I'd say rather, as has been pointed out already, that it shows that their NGB is prepared to support them as much as possible when unforeseen circumstances arise.

Foilling Around
-30th June 2008, 22:05
Why on earth are we spending all this time over the comments of one person!

"People" are not complaining about Richard's selection. "One person" is questioning the selection process. I think his point is that if it was purely on merit - Richard was next on the list - then it is fine. If it was a result of BFA pressure; then well done BFA but the process is flawed as it should be on merit.

To that extent I agree with him. The reallocation process is not fully transparent to the outsider.

Richard was very unlucky to have got injured at the wrong time in the qualification process, but then many other athletes in other sports have had the same bad luck.

He has been very lucky that a window of opportunity has opened up for him. I'm sure he will grab that opportunity with both hands.

pinkelephant
-1st July 2008, 06:33
Why on earth are we spending all this time over the comments of one person!



Because that seems to be the way things work on this forum!

riposteinprime
-1st July 2008, 08:43
Re: Riposteprime

You do the sport a great disservice by your comments, because
they are not constructive.What are you trying to prove?

Absolutely nothing. But surely discussion is a good thing?


Dealing with the points you made I would point out that discretionary places are only allocated if the Federation applies on behalf of a fencer for these. Perhaps there was only one applicant in womens epee unless of course
you know better.

Are you suggesting that GB applied for a discretionary place for Men's Foil before we knew Richard wasn't going to qualify?

I don't know exactly how it works beyond submissions had to be in by last November.


The second point is that Angard Gaur [Holland] also received a discretionary
place in womens foil and she is only ranked 42 in FIE list. Nevertheless she
was the top placed fencer from a non qualified nation. No doubt you will have
a comment about her selection as well!

I can't comment about any selection because I don't know anything about it. What I don't understand is why you can use the argument 'he deserved to go' for fencers like Kruse or Gaur, when that clearly doesn't apply to all nationalities or weapons. I just think it's all a bit opaque when the curent olympic men's epee champion can't defend his title.

pigeonmeister
-1st July 2008, 09:19
Absolutely nothing.

I can't comment about any selection because I don't know anything about it.

So you know nothing about selection- nor are you trying to prove anything?

So what, exactly, is the point of your posts?

cesh_fencing
-1st July 2008, 10:21
So what, exactly, is the point of your posts?

I think P-Rs posts are just that transparancy is important when selections are made. As we all have read over the years there are so many dodgy dealings that have happend (or reported in the news to have happened) in the past around the Olympic scene (buying votes, bungs, kickbacks, future promises etc) that it is important to him that everything was done correctly (as it should be for all of us).

There are probably fencers around the world thinking why is X fencer going and I am not, maybe Richard was the next logical selection for MF to make up numbers and MF was the logical place for the extra fencer to make up numbers, maybe the BF team had better arguements on why Richard should be selected to other countries arguements, maybe it was pure luck and a love of GBR by the FIE in general, either way I am really pleased he is going and to have him representing our country....

Similar selection issues are raised each time our World/Euro Championship teams are selected. The main issue is that it is difficult for an outsider to the selection process (i.e. most of us) to understand why fencer A goes when fencer B stays at home, when in that persons opinion fencer A has the higher ranking and is possibly the more talented fencer who has got to that level with less opportunities (especially since the Pathway/Golden Tickets came into force).

Finally re-reading P-Rs posts he has shown consistant support of Richard so it is purely the system he is discussing not the person selected. If you fully read the thread I think you will see this.

pigeonmeister
-1st July 2008, 11:35
How can a wildcard system, pretty much by definition, be held up to the same rigours of tranparency as the rigidly defined Olympic selection process?

It's a discretionary process....it cannot be codified or made fully transparent. It can only be subject to the public court of outrage or bemusement. Is anyone out there bemused or outraged that RK has been selected? Is there any alleged bribery, back scratching or 'future promises'.

In fact, the Olympics, themselves, will never represent a level playing field for the top 20 athletes (need for all continents to be represented etc...)

I say again, I don't understand the point of R-P's post. If it is to urge greater transparency in a wild card system- that is pointless. If it is to argue against the use of wild cards, I can see perhaps a point- but I don't think this was his intention...

monobrow
-1st July 2008, 11:38
I can't comment about any selection because I don't know anything about it. What I don't understand is why you can use the argument 'he deserved to go' for fencers like Kruse or Gaur, when that clearly doesn't apply to all nationalities or weapons. I just think it's all a bit opaque when the curent olympic men's epee champion can't defend his title.

I think fischer isn't going because one of his team mates had qualified automatically off the world rankings. Fischer wasn't in a position to qualify automatically therefore switzerland was already represened. andrea cassara also didnt qualify to represent his country Italy because he was ranked below his team mates at the time.

I think that when someone from any country qualifies automaticly no one else from same country can try and qualify.

(i'm not too sure about the second senegalese fencer in the MS, considering keita had qualified already)

Ronald Velden
-1st July 2008, 12:46
Ref:riposteinprime

Debate has value if you have something constructive to add. Here you
appear to be critical of the system,and the potential role of the BFA in
obtaining Richard's selection.

For the record I believe that there was a previous discussion following the
European Qualifiers when the question was asked whether the BFA had
made a submission on behalf of Richard.

Keith Smith had replied at that time that the BFA had made such a request.

cesh_fencing
-1st July 2008, 13:16
Keith everyone is grateful for all the effort you put into British fencing and it's fencers. Richard has a fantastic opportunity that I'm sure you had a great deal in creating. .
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Originally Posted by cesh_fencing
I feel it is great that Richard has been selected

We should all be fully supporting Keith and anyone else who had any influence for helping in the place being secured. It is important for our sport to get our fencers to the Olympics.
Quote by cesh-fencing ends

by RiposteinPrime - I totally agree and have been saying this all along.

Ronald, not sure who ReposteinPrime is but he has not had a go at BF or Richard in this thread from what I read, he has actually congratulated BF and Keith's contribution to RKs selection (as above).

He is just highlighting that the Wild-Card system is a mystery to all but the few and that by being so it is an area that 'could' be deemed dubious.

It is easy to be positive in the outcome this time as RK got in, however what would be being said if another fencer from another country had got a place and RK had missed out? Would we be saying 'oh it is a wildcard system, that is life' or would we all be concerned in what had occurred and why our fencer had missed out.