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wear wanderers
-23rd June 2008, 11:24
I am reliably informed that are still a few Foil places on the above Summer Camp, August 11th to 15th 2008.

See www.ncl.ac.uk/cprs/fencing for further info.

Fencers - be prepared to work hard.

Parents - great place to spend a week, lots to see in Newcastle, and very close to numerous places of interest (and Scotland of course).

j-g-15
-21st July 2008, 15:10
Hi, just wondering if there's anyone on here going to the Newcastle training camp?

Tubby
-23rd July 2008, 20:15
"The sessions will be delivered by international and national level coaches (subject to availability). "

Does anyone know who the international coach(es) on this camp is (are)?

Crimson Blade
-23rd July 2008, 21:58
Hi, just wondering if there's anyone on here going to the Newcastle training camp?

I am

Miss_P
-24th July 2008, 12:30
"The sessions will be delivered by international and national level coaches (subject to availability). "

Does anyone know who the international coach(es) on this camp is (are)?As no one has replied yet is there any assumption we can take from that?

Will there be a national level epee coach at this camp? If so, who? I may try and come up for a couple of days.

Let's Fence
-24th July 2008, 13:30
The coaching staff for the Newcastle Camp are

Paul Neil-MacLachlan has coached several individual GB Team Fencers for the World Championships over the last 10 years as well as the Scottish Pentathlon Team.

David Kirby has coached many international fencers and many of his pupils have been national champions at all three fencing weapons and the pentathlon discipline. He has coached fencers to medals in world championships on three occasions, and has been the British sabre team coach, and the England coach (Commonwealths, 2006) at both junior and senior levels.

Iain Aberdeen coaches the Fencing Elite Athletes at Newcastle University and the Mens and Womens Fencing Teams. Iain was coach to the England Squad at the UK School Games in Glasgow in 2006 for the individual and team events and coach to the U16 and U18 England teams at the Junior Home International in Cardiff 2007. Iain is currently the GB Men's Cadet Foil Team Manager and is on the foil committee for British Fencing.

Christie Waddington member of the universityís Elite Athletes Squad at Newcastle University, and assistant coach at Newcastle Fencing Club and the University Fencing Club. Christie won the British Universities Sports Association (BUSA) Sabre gold medal in both 2006 and 2007. Christie has been involved with the Scotland Junior and Senior Teams since 2004 and in January 2006 won gold medals with the Commonwealth U20 and Senior squads.

We also have profiles for our strength and conditioning coaches, nutritionists and Sports injury specialists available if necessary.

Tubby
-24th July 2008, 16:48
Thanks for the info.

Probably Guilty
-4th August 2008, 20:18
It would be more factual to have stated lessons will be given by England Fencing accredited coaches including two internationally diploma'd coaches (Kirby and Neil-MacLachlan)

ANd just a couple of niggles


The coaching staff for the Newcastle Camp are

Paul Neil-MacLachlan has coached several individual GB Team Fencers for the World Championships over the last 10 years as well as the Scottish Pentathlon Team.

Paul is a great coach, a bit surprised there isn't more info on here!! Lost track of how many top fencers he coached years ago!


David Kirby has coached many international fencers and many of his pupils have been national champions at all three fencing weapons and the pentathlon discipline. He has coached fencers to medals in world championships on three occasions, and has been the British sabre team coach, and the England coach (Commonwealths, 2006) at both junior and senior levels.

David again has a great track record, he was the beginner coach to (among others) Mike Johnson, Louise Bond-Williams, Jack Boteler etc. and of course Peter.

I had know idea he was coach of 3 world championship medalists, I know O'Connell fences sabre? but I thought our only other medals were in foil (atleast in the recent past). Also I don't think he was coach at the Junior Commonwealths in 2006.

Also struggling on a national Epee champion either fencing or pentathlon, but who knows.

David is a great coach and deserves recognition for his actual (and bloody impressive) achievements. Facts people facts!!


Iain Aberdeen coaches the Fencing Elite Athletes at Newcastle University and the Mens and Womens Fencing Teams. Iain was coach to the England Squad at the UK School Games in Glasgow in 2006 for the individual and team events and coach to the U16 and U18 England teams at the Junior Home International in Cardiff 2007. Iain is currently the GB Men's Cadet Foil Team Manager and is on the foil committee for British Fencing.

Isn't the GB Men's Cadet Team Manager by definition on the foil committee, and does this give any indication of coaching ability. Although I must say if Iain coaches Robynne Stenner and Christie Waddington he is more than good enough in my book.


We also have profiles for our strength and conditioning coaches, nutritionists and Sports injury specialists available if necessary.

Would be interesting to know if they are the same experts as BFA have been using at TASS camps, as I remember one of them was from North East last year.

Let's Fence
-4th August 2008, 20:25
Thank you for the post above.

We also missed Prof Pat Pearson of the list of coaches due to an injury but he should be okay to make some of the course.

I must admit to not coaching Robynne Stenner with individual lessons only within squad training at the University.

The role of GB Mens Cadet Foil Squad Manager / Captain does involve coaching and is not just an organisation role.

The staff for the strength and conditioning are not part of the TASS group but from the EIS and are well qualified for the task hence we are using them again this year.

I can provide the profiles for any of the staff on the course if anyone wants them as the advertising for this camp seems to have sparked a grand debate on the forum.

MatFink
-4th August 2008, 20:41
As the coach of the other lot in Newcastle, I thought I should way in in Iain's defence here.

I have experience of Iain from the last 12 months, David because I grew up in the Midlands, Paul because as people may remember prior to 2000 I was a member of Scottish Fencing, and anyone who doesn't know Pat has been hiding under a stone.

It is not easy to run this type of course, getting 4 coaches of this level together is difficult. Also having worked with them for a camp over the last fortnight, and also because we have strong links with them (some of their S & C staff also work at Northumbria), I can state without a doubt that the EIS staff are top shelf. I can't comment on Christie as I don't know anyone she coaches.

I hope the camp will be well supported both within and from outside the area, come on people we are all on the same side here!!!!

Although ... ... being me... ... can't resist it!!

Who are David's 3 medallists? I am guessing the foil national champion was either Stockley or Daniels I really can't remember that far back (except a pile of beatings from Sam that blur into one long ten year period :) )

Was the epee champion Simon Reading? (a touch before my time)

My little brain is going to be ticking over now, so help me people ? :)

Good luck with the camp Iain.

Probably Guilty
-4th August 2008, 20:57
[QUOTE=MatFink;200880]

Who are David's 3 medallists? I am guessing the foil national champion was either Stockley or Daniels I really can't remember that far back (except a pile of beatings from Sam that blur into one long ten year period :) )

Was the epee champion Simon Reading? (a touch before my time)

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I thought the foilist was Rhys Melia, doesn't he do the training camp in Hungary with David every year?

Let's Fence
-4th August 2008, 21:01
Nice to get some support from the "other side"

Cheers Matt

Miss_P
-5th August 2008, 08:53
I can provide the profiles for any of the staff on the course if anyone wants them as the advertising for this camp seems to have sparked a grand debate on the forum.Not a grand debate and hopefully no criticism. Very best of luck with the camp, I can't make it as I bagged a bargin holiday instead, yipeeee!

Red
-5th August 2008, 09:12
2 of David's world championships medals are

Cadet Silver LBW 1999
Junior Silver LBW 2002

PM1
-5th August 2008, 19:26
I thought the foilist was Rhys Melia, doesn't he do the training camp in Hungary with David every year?

DON'T tell his mother/grandfather that !!!:eek: :eek: :eek:

We all need to be careful what/which/whose success we claim, or part in :not_worth

MatFink
-5th August 2008, 19:42
Yep Glen would probably have something to say there to, and I am sure there are others who could claim greater involvement than David.

I am pretty sure Stuart Daniels won a national title and he fenced with David and Nick Chapman at Evesham.

Just as an additional point, it is the fencer who fences, and the fencer who wins. It is nice that a coach has coached or does coach champions but it doesn't really tell you much. Some people make it in spite of bad coaching or lack of coaching so maybe it is better to focus on the achievements of the fencers rather than the reflected light they cast on their coaches past and present.

Rob.Leicester
-9th August 2008, 21:53
"I thought the foilist was Rhys Melia, doesn't he do the training camp in Hungary with David every year?"

If you're referring to the camp in Debrecen, Rhys was there as a coach this year.

DSSabre
-10th August 2008, 08:08
If memory seves and it doesn't always think louise bond williams also won bronze in the first ever senior world championships. Perhaps it would have been cleaer to say one fencer who hs won three medals at Cadet, Junior and Senior Worlds.

P.S. Matt thought you'd find this funny refereed epee today.

MatFink
-11th August 2008, 04:15
P.S. Matt thought you'd find this funny refereed epee today.

I did notice my friend, In fact I have it on video if you would like a copy :not_worth

You didn't look too bored :whistle:

Most importantly you didn't electrocute anyone this time although in all fairness it is not so easy to do if they are not to wireless. :tongue:

I hope you have fabulous time, and give my regards to the guys (I noticed some of them got epee'd too).


Better stay on topic: so if you still haven't done a camp this year could be time to PM Let's Fence it could be your saving grace come September :)