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the adjudicator
-9th May 2009, 12:30
just found this but don't understand what it is saying, could anyone help , does it let 92 fencers fence and is its only foil or epee and sabre also

http://www.singapore2010.sg/sports/26sports/fencing

wix
-9th May 2009, 13:43
Seems to be saying ONLY those born in 93 and 94 and as it refers to 'per weapon' would imply all 6 weapons are included.

Let's Fence
-9th May 2009, 13:48
All three weapons

93 and 94

Must be top 3 european cadets at world cadets 2010

StabInTheDark
-10th May 2009, 12:10
All three weapons

93 and 94

Must be top 3 european cadets at world cadets 2010

Now that's interesting!

I raised this on the forum some months ago and was informed by Keith Smith that the selection criteria were not yet clear but were likley to be zonal (like the full olympics) and therefore very hard to qualify from Europe, but British fencing would keep an eye on it.

Let's Fence seems to have subsequently acquired more information than KS.

This page:

http://www.singapore2010.sg/sports/26sports/fencing

states the qualifying competition is Cadet WC 2010- only problem is at the present time no country has yet put its hand up to host such an event in 2010 and the FIE appear very lukewarm about holding World Championships at U17 anyway. so it raises as many questions as it answers.

Can our NGB please raise with FIE/BOA and clarify this conunndrum

thanks

PM1
-10th May 2009, 14:02
..... the qualifying competition is Cadet WC 2010- only problem is at the present time no country has yet put its hand up to host such an event in 2010 and the FIE appear very lukewarm about holding World Championships at U17 anyway.

I seem to remember that the FIE flag was given to the rep from Azerbyzhian (?) for 2010 at the closing ceremony in Belfast......does that help??

Let's Fence
-10th May 2009, 14:08
Cadet World Championships Baku, (?) Azerbyzhian (?) in April 2010.

Gangsta G
-10th May 2009, 14:25
Best ranked fencers from each geographical zone at Cadet WC qualify, respecting the following distribution: Asia/Oceania and Europe - 3 per event, America - 2 per event, Africa - 1 per event.The way I understand this, it means that each event will only have nine competitors... sounds a bit pointless!

TomA
-10th May 2009, 15:58
The way I understand this, it means that each event will only have nine competitors... sounds a bit pointless!Maybe they'll cut to 8 as well! :p

StabInTheDark
-10th May 2009, 18:57
http://www.singapore2010.sg/library/files/0/en/qualifying.pdf

gives a bit more detail;

54 Qualify by Zones (IF = International Federation, ie FIE competition), as of right, the top 3 Europeans, 2 Americans and 1 African in each weapon from the Cadet WC's asstated above

plus:

18 "Universality" places for NOCs - places seem to be reserved for allocation by some further qualification method (eg International Rankings or Zonal qualifiers, where a country does not have a representative from the outcome of the Cadet worlds).

plus

6 Home nation places (one per weapon)

total 78: (= 6 weapons x 16 places)

Also:

"Mixed gender and NOCs team event" whatever that may mean.




Another Scoop for the Forum - you heard it here first!!

1cypriotfencer
-10th May 2009, 19:02
woah, this looks too sic but how many fencers 9?

Let's Fence
-10th May 2009, 19:08
There 49 NOC's in the European Olympic Committee zone alone.

In total worldwide there are 205 NOC's

18 places is not going to go far!

Let's Fence
-10th May 2009, 19:15
Explains NOC allocation rather than guessing.


PRINCIPLES
1. Universality: The participation of all two hundred and five (205) National Olympic Committees
(NOCs)is the key factor in ensuring the universality of the YOG.
1.1. Individual sports: In each sport a specific number of places for NOCs (referred to as NOC
universality places) will be reserved in order to ensure that at least four (4) athletes per NOC
will be given the possibilityto participate in the YOG. The number of places reserved per
sport will be decided in agreement with the IOC. NOCs will be asked to provide a list of the
preferred sportsand disciplinesin which they would like to enter the four(4)athletes (in order
of preference, in at least two (2) different sports and with a balanced gender repartition.
The distributionwill be done by a YOG tripartite commissionwithinall individual sports.
1.2. Team sports: Football, Hockey, Handball and Volleyball will consist of six-team tournaments
for men and women,which will featureat least one team from each of the five continents.

Gangsta G
-10th May 2009, 19:48
That makes more sense - I thought I must be missing something!

StabInTheDark
-10th May 2009, 20:49
.....with a balanced gender repartition. The distribution will be done by a YOG tripartite commission within all individual sports......



Now that's the Forum at its absolute best: collaborative, clear, concise, timely, accurate and informative!

Tubby
-11th May 2009, 12:36
.. so no one mentioned it to you in Balfast then....

StabInTheDark
-11th May 2009, 22:12
.. so no one mentioned it to you in Belfast then....

No as it happens - but then everyone was rather too busy, and we were only able to be there the first 2 days,

DSSabre
-11th June 2009, 10:34
So is there any more information out there about this?

DS

lisward
-17th June 2009, 17:17
Just warning you guys. Fencing Singapore fails.