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Asgaroth
-9th March 2004, 17:14
I need 1 set of fine quality equipment for competitions - I need everything (I have only practice equipment) but saber and shoes.
Can you list me all what I need for competitions and price range.

Thank you,
Asgaroth

colliebeast
-9th March 2004, 17:40
Jacket at least 350N (so if your buying 2nd hand kit make sure)

Breeches also at least 350N

Plastron 350N

Mask min 350N bib

Glove (and a seperate overlay if not incorporated in the glove)

lamé

Body wires (at least 2)

Mask Clip (at least 2)

sabres (also at least 2)

Long white socks (many pairs i always lose/ forget them)

and generally speaking a bag to put everything in is more than useful!

you can see prices on the Leon Paul website or other websites
generally speaking all that is expensive!
if you can buy it in stages coz then at least it wont all wear out together, so you wont have to replace all at once!

hope this has been of some use :)

uk_45
-9th March 2004, 20:51
Yep all that i'd say a good sabre blade as they are alot nicer.

and you will find that all (to the best of my knowledge) electric sabre masks are 1600N i think!

Asgaroth
-9th March 2004, 20:56
Hmm just wondering any discounts or coupons like 15% off?
I have 15% from PBT fencing anything similar here on Leon Paul.
I need to buy 2 sets (myself and for my wife)
In general it's above or around 1k kind of a lot
:foil2:

uk_45
-9th March 2004, 21:11
how you get 15% from PBT i wouldnt mind that!

colliebeast
-9th March 2004, 22:49
When spending a lot it's always worth inquiring if a discount is available... often it it! :grin:

Asgaroth
-9th March 2004, 23:11
Originally posted by uk_45
how you get 15% from PBT i wouldnt mind that!

Well, I have signed to USFA - I've got the mebership card and 15% of from fencepbt.com

MrWizard
-10th March 2004, 19:46
Originally posted by uk_45
Yep all that i'd say a good sabre blade as they are alot nicer.

Got any recommendations as to what blades to look at? I bought one of the cheapest in the LP range, and unfortunately it's a bit on the heavy side, was thinking of getting something a bit better.

Cheers,
Jamie

colliebeast
-10th March 2004, 19:50
I like PBT blades but its all personal choice
if weapons are heavy it's normally the guard, try a PBT or Allstar one

Rdb811
-10th March 2004, 19:55
Duellist Blue - lovely blade.

Asgaroth
-10th March 2004, 21:44
Originally posted by MrWizard
Got any recommendations as to what blades to look at? I bought one of the cheapest in the LP range, and unfortunately it's a bit on the heavy side, was thinking of getting something a bit better.

Cheers,
Jamie

from what I have read the PBT blades are nice.
I have tried cheap Russian balde and that was ok.
now I have bought two Uhlmann FS baldes and it's a little bit heavy for me.

Marcos
-11th March 2004, 08:51
Originally posted by Rdb811
Duellist Blue - lovely blade.

I actually prefer the gold - but, yeah, Duellist do great blades

lame' has to be LP lightweight if you have the extra few quid

Rdb811
-11th March 2004, 10:48
I thought the gold was good until I tried the blue - the gold is a bit heavier.

PKT
-14th March 2004, 07:12
colliebeast

u forgot:
elbow guard! and
'cup'.

the LP 2-armed plastron, item 400 - Allstar doesnot make this - is worth its weight in gold for those
~ chest cuts,
~ head cuts that bounced off the mask onto one's non-sword-arm shoulder,
~ whips around the back!!! ouch, ouch, ouch.

some words of advice:
once you get all these jacket, plastron and breeches, DO wear them ALL all the time. no sense in not wearing the breeches to protect those precious family jewels!

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i agree: the blues are lighter than the gold.

i use the ones from the Ukraine...from which forge, that i don't know.

PK

uk_45
-14th March 2004, 10:39
elbow guards r for wimps and well lets not stsrt on cups a remeber the last thread on them. as for blades i would say a PBT they're loverly a duelist blue or the LP maraging.

Rdb811
-14th March 2004, 16:47
Originally posted by uk_45
elbow guards r for wimps

I suspect being unable to use your righ arm for six months, as happened to a friend of mine my make you change your min.

uk_45
-14th March 2004, 16:58
hmm spose but they really dont look strong tho do they

PKT
-14th March 2004, 18:04
Originally posted by uk_45
elbow guards r for wimps and well lets not stsrt on cups a remeber the last thread on them. ...

if you're such a macho man, why not play [ice] hockey, or rugby, eh? rather than doing this "sissy" sport of fencing? At least in hockey, you can choose to do a few bare-knuckle boxing matches once in a while.

That said, even hockey players wear armour and they DO wear cups!!! for crying out loud.

Good, don't wear cups, let you personally prove Darwin's theory. The world's a better place when knuckle-draggers cannot reproduce...

It won't be my blood or my ability to reproduce that's on the line...

:grin:

PK

randomsabreur
-16th March 2004, 11:45
Elbow guards look like they could restrict movement a bit and cause pain in other ways. That said, I got taken in by a damn good compound attack yesterday, went for a nice quarte parry, sadly the attack finished to my funny bone. It hurt for a bit, and I have a nice bruise, but that is part of fencing sabre.

As for the cup issue, I don't need one but I have a friend who told me a horror story where a martial artist who was wearing one took a kick to it, it split in 2, and was pushed back in where it came together and neatly severed what it was supposed to be protecting.

PKT
-16th March 2004, 18:24
i actually made my own elbow guard using a tube-shaped polyurethane elbow tensor as the base and a generous piece of leather i bought from the shoemaker. it therefore serves two functions:
~ protect my funny bone;
~ give support to my aging muscles around my elbow.

furthermore, it's a lower profile than the bought elbow guard. admittedly the tensor is more expensive than the allstar elbow guard...

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that's interesting about your friend's cup. was it in a pair of shorts that's properly designed to hold the cup. if not, that may be the cause of the problem... as they say, costume malfunction... ;)

take care,

pk