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manicguitarist
-11th December 2012, 17:36
Hi folks!
I'm considering joining the BVF - but at the moment it doesn't actually seem to offer any benefit to fencers "Ooop North".

Is this a chicken and egg kinda thing? There are plenty 40+ fencers in the clubs I attend, but non are in the BVF, but equally the BVF doesn't come up here - so no reason to join. And so on....

Just sounding off really.... :)

Don Diego
-12th December 2012, 01:22
Think you will find there are a few bvf members in your area.
I do believe the NW sent a team to the veterans winton cup.
Other side of the pennines Leeds Open had a veterans only competition (run on opposite days to the open so you could do both).

manicguitarist
-12th December 2012, 08:03
Think you will find there are a few bvf members in your area.
I do believe the NW sent a team to the veterans winton cup.
Other side of the pennines Leeds Open had a veterans only competition (run on opposite days to the open so you could do both).



Hi Don!
Yes, there may be a few - but there could be *a lot*, but as it stands there isn't really any reason to join up.

Speaking personally, I'd fence all day every day (I work for myself, so can choose my hours) if I could find someone to fence against - and most weekends too (wife permitting), so it is for selfish reasons that I want more tournaments up here.
:)

bafco
-20th December 2012, 10:17
Hi folks!
I'm considering joining the BVF - but at the moment it doesn't actually seem to offer any benefit to fencers "Ooop North".


One of the problems is communication. I am just in the process of setting up a mailing list for veteran fencers (http://nw-fencing.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/nwveterans_nw-fencing.org.uk) in the NW and will be adding a veterans section to the NW website (http://www.nw-fencing.org.uk/) in the new year.


Is this a chicken and egg kinda thing? There are plenty 40+ fencers in the clubs I attend, but non are in the BVF, but equally the BVF doesn't come up here - so no reason to join. And so on....

Not very often it doesn't but there have been competitions run by the NVF in Leeds and Wrexham. Of course if we had more members up here then we could press for more events with, as the advertisement for the Bay Open stated, "extra rain and fog".

manicguitarist
-20th December 2012, 10:24
One of the problems is communication. I am just in the process of setting up a mailing list for veteran fencers (http://nw-fencing.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/nwveterans_nw-fencing.org.uk) in the NW and will be adding a veterans section to the NW website (http://www.nw-fencing.org.uk/) in the new year.


Not very often it doesn't but there have been competitions run by the NVF in Leeds and Wrexham. Of course if we had more members up here then we could press for more events with, as the advertisement for the Bay Open stated, "extra rain and fog".

:)

Certainly raining here. Not stopped really since June.

Wrexham? North?!....Leeds? Well, that, I guess, is *just* North. :)

purple
-21st December 2012, 12:12
:)

Certainly raining here. Not stopped really since June.

Wrexham? North?!....Leeds? Well, that, I guess, is *just* North. :)

You should hear the whinging any time an event is run at the EIS in Sheffield, or Bolton Arena, or Gateshead. I feel a proportion of the fencing community would be most happy if the entire circuit was moved to within the M25 and sod everybody else.

manicguitarist
-21st December 2012, 15:32
You should hear the whinging any time an event is run at the EIS in Sheffield, or Bolton Arena, or Gateshead. I feel a proportion of the fencing community would be most happy if the entire circuit was moved to within the M25 and sod everybody else.


:)

I must admit to being a bit :confused: about that though - sure, complain if there are no competitions where you are - but don't complain if others have them. If that makes sense - for example I don't want there to be less competitions darn sarf for the Vets, just more Ooop Norf as well. If it is too far to go - then folks don't have to go!

purple
-21st December 2012, 20:58
:)

I must admit to being a bit :confused: about that though - sure, complain if there are no competitions where you are - but don't complain if others have them. If that makes sense - for example I don't want there to be less competitions darn sarf for the Vets, just more Ooop Norf as well. If it is too far to go - then folks don't have to go!

That's fine for senior fencers who are simply after doing the open circuit, etc, but for junior fencers it's a little more complicated. There are nominated events they have to attend for selection, ranking etc. The balance of these events is one of the most hotly debated topics of the fencing calendar[1].


God's knows for vets.


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[1] Seriously. I mean, it's not like we've anything better to do?

manicguitarist
-21st December 2012, 21:40
That's fine for senior fencers who are simply after doing the open circuit, etc, but for junior fencers it's a little more complicated. There are nominated events they have to attend for selection, ranking etc. The balance of these events is one of the most hotly debated topics of the fencing calendar[1].


God's knows for vets.


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[1] Seriously. I mean, it's not like we've anything better to do?



Ah...now I understand.

South based fencers chasing rankings don't want competitions Ooop North because it is a long way. Northern based fencers have to make the effort - or is the impression down South that there ain't many fencers up here - because they ain't at the competitions.....

Doesn't help with the North's impression of the fortitude of those based down South. Hey, perhaps if we served shandy at Northern competitions they might not mind coming up here? :p