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bucket
-30th March 2004, 13:20
Watching TV the other night for a change when an advert came on for the razor company Wilkinson Sword.

My smart-alec flatmate turns and says "so, do they make swords then ?"

I haven't a clue.

Anybody know if they do /did ?

Gav
-30th March 2004, 13:26
They certainly did and still do.

Check this out:

http://www.wilkinsonsword.com/

Mostly ceremonial stuff now though.

bucket
-30th March 2004, 13:59
ah, so can't get a new sabre from them then :grin:

Marcos
-30th March 2004, 14:26
i'm sure in the late 80's early 90's they did make sabres for fencing

myopic
-30th March 2004, 14:53
Yeah always wondered how amenable companies like this would be to some very minor sponsership of also-ran british fencers. Them and Jaguar - ah for a British racing green lame . . . .

BTW Bucket what are the chances of seeing some of you smiling Dundee Uni types at the Glasgow open?

kingkenny
-30th March 2004, 14:53
Ask Barry but I belive that Leon Paul and wilkinson sword were partners but split along time ago as the pauls thought there was no money to be made in razors and garden seketurs(cutters) .
So that was a good decision.
DOH DOH DOH DOH:eek:

:coachhome

gbm
-30th March 2004, 18:05
My club has a foil with Wilkinson Sword on the guard (don't know how much of it has been put together out of parts though). How old does that make it at least?

uk_45
-30th March 2004, 19:00
They are still the offical blacksmith of the Royal Navy and make the sword of peace etc

uk_45
-30th March 2004, 19:01
PS any one know what price range we are talking on there swords?

devalleassoc
-31st March 2004, 01:35
Originally posted by uk_45
PS any one know what price range we are talking on there swords?

Don't know, but I just sent out for info on a few items. I'll let you know!!:sam:

J_D
-31st March 2004, 09:06
you can pick up Wilkinson swords on ebay from between 150 and 500 depending on what you're buying (age, rarity, provenence etc), though I did see a truely nasty fake on there so watch out!

devalleassoc
-31st March 2004, 13:01
Thanks for the tip!! 'Catch that uk_45??

devalleassoc
-31st March 2004, 14:24
Okay, I got word back from the nice folks at Wilkinson Sword. Here is the link for products and pricing (pricing in pdf).

http://www.mktpoint.com/wks .

Pretty cool stuff!!

:)

Jambo
-31st March 2004, 14:40
The cost is astonishing though. Much as I'd like one I couldnt justify paying over a grand for an ornament (and burglar deterrent I suppose)!

uk_45
-31st March 2004, 15:26
I am looking for a good looking sword so it might be time to hit the savings or maybe just go on ebay!

uk_45
-31st March 2004, 15:28
but after looking maybe not!

devalleassoc
-31st March 2004, 17:14
Ebay is the way to go dude!! Expeeennnssiivveee!!:dizzy:

J_D
-1st April 2004, 07:43
I've already bought a couple from ebay, looking to get another soon ;)

wingnutLP
-1st April 2004, 09:12
Leon Paul were in direct competition with Wilkinson for a while. Mr Wilkinson had this crazy idea that there would be more money to make in razors.

Leon in his infinite wizdom thought he was nuts and let him get on with it.

DOH!!!

PM1
-1st April 2004, 10:16
oh well, can't always be right.......both have their competitors....:grin:

Elberto
-4th April 2004, 08:06
I have a few old wilkinson sword fenbcing blades and actually weapons...

Sabre blade is heavy curved and has a solid tip..
I contacted wilkinson least ear and they have the old catalogues - i have got to take some photo's and email them to Wilkinsons's to have them adivse when approximately it was made....

Have an old epee with wilkinson on the guard.. nice old stuff that...

will find out more when I get myself together (that may take some time!!!)

PKT
-6th April 2004, 00:13
Originally posted by devalleassoc
Ebay is the way to go dude!! Expeeennnssiivveee!!:dizzy:


ebay is no good for this sort of thing.
This is better, specialised:
http://www.militaryheritage.com/swords2.htm

These are real swords.

Does any know what the Household Calvary, the British military use?
Are they real, sharp swords or just ceremonial swords?
and of course, the more imporatnat question: who makes them?

I have a 1908 pattern sword with a leather sword chord and metal scabbard. bought it in the 70s for CAD350 alas the edge was taken out... Here are some fotos of it.
http://www.militaryheritage.com/images/1908_2.jpg
Mine's painted olive green - or whatever the name of the colour is.
Oh, the handle which doesn't show well in these fotos is as close as one gets to an ortho grip for sabre.

This thing weighs 5 lbs with the metal field scabbard. not designed for walking with...

PK

J_D
-6th April 2004, 09:54
Well, I've managed to secure 2 decent swords from Ebay so far (and yes you have to sort through the crap to find them, just work the filters well and get rid of the replicas, katanas, fantasy weapons etc.) one was a Wilkinson 1914-17 pattern Royal Engineers, the other an 1897 pattern Infantry officer's sword by Hawkes.

I could have had more if I'd been prepared to bid higher!

PKT
-6th April 2004, 17:53
How do the price compare to the site i cited?

PK

Flash SOTU
-18th April 2004, 11:02
Originally posted by wingnut
Leon Paul were in direct competition with Wilkinson for a while. Mr Wilkinson had this crazy idea that there would be more money to make in razors.

Leon in his infinite wizdom thought he was nuts and let him get on with it.

DOH!!!

How about LP razors then?

Neo
-18th April 2004, 13:15
Originally posted by Gav
They certainly did and still do.

Check this out:

http://www.wilkinsonsword.com/

Mostly ceremonial stuff now though.

I actually saw some WS fencing stuff on ebay ages ago

uk_45
-18th April 2004, 13:23
Yeah the stuff that comes up and eBay is fun if not sacry!

Ethica
-25th July 2004, 16:24
I found a Wilkinsons Sword foil in a bric-a-brac shop the other week, got it for 15 pounds, noticed later it was left handed though and my instructor says it shouldn't be used anyway because the blade could be old and brittle.

Was this a good deal? If I wanted to sell it on e-bay how much could I expect to get for it?

Rdb811
-25th July 2004, 17:39
No - unless the Wilkinson Sword foils have an historic value, then the weapon is valueless and unusable.

You might get your money back by selling it on e-Bay, although that would be ethically dubious (I have no idea what the Sale of Goods Act has to say on this, eeven though it would be a private sale).

Write off to experience, I'm afraid.

15 would be about the right price for a seond hand non-maraging blade if the blade was not that heavily used.

jamesthornton
-25th July 2004, 18:05
they stilll sponser fencing in spain tho. not very patriotic mind.:fencingsm

uk_45
-25th July 2004, 21:11
I was in the sword shop in chester (armidilo) and they sell a non maraging non electric sabre for £95 epee and foil for £85!

Epeecurean
-25th July 2004, 22:19
Originally posted by Flash SOTU
How about LP razors then?

Oh yes, the Leon Paul Extra Light Titanium razor...Golubitsky swears by them!

I don't understand why everyone doesn't switch over to them -- shaving is a finesse sport, not weightlifting!! Plus once you get used to the balance, you have a blade which lasts five times that of competing razors.

Ethica
-25th July 2004, 22:51
The razor has a triple foil but you're only allowed to shave your chest with it and only after someone else has tried to shave you first.

wingnutLP
-28th July 2004, 11:32
Originally posted by Epeecurean
Oh yes, the Leon Paul Extra Light Titanium razor...Golubitsky swears by them!

I don't understand why everyone doesn't switch over to them -- shaving is a finesse sport, not weightlifting!! Plus once you get used to the balance, you have a blade which lasts five times that of competing razors.

Where can I buy one of these miracle razors?;)

gbm
-28th July 2004, 11:35
Originally posted by wingnut
Where can I buy one of these miracle razors?;)

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