Wimbledon Team Epee - Results

[JonM]

2012 LPJS Wimbledon Team Epee: Results.

U9
1st: Dream FC “A”
2nd: Escrime Academy “Golden Blades”
3rd =: Chelsea FC
3rd =: Brixton FC
5th: Escrime Academy “Musketeers”
6th: Escrime Academy “Peanuts”
7th: Escrime Academy “Gods of the Sword”
8th: Escrime Academy “The Losers”
9th: Escrime Academy “Golden Fencers”
10th: Dream FC “B”
11th: Escrime Academy “Invincibles”
12th: Escrime Academy “The Stars”

U11
1st: Brixton FC “Thistle”
2nd: Escrime Academy “Dragonfly”
3rd =: Escrime Academy “Terminator”
3rd =: Redhill and Reigate EC “Dragons”
5th: Brixton FC “Academicals”
6th: City of London Freemen’s School
7th: Escrime Academy “The Wasps”
8th: Escrime Academy “White Socks”
9th: Redhill and Reigate EC “Devils”
10th: KCSWHS FC
11th: Dream FC

U13
1st: Escrime Academy “LOL”
2nd: Brixton FC “United”
3rd =: City of London Freemen’s School
3rd =: Redhill and Reigate Epee Club
5th : Haverstock FC
6th: Durovernum FC
7th: Escrime Academy “Swordfish”
8th: Escrime Academy “Wildcats”
9th: Brixton FC “City”
10th: Chelsea FC
11th : Escrime Academy “Totem”
12th: Escrime Academy “Whatever”
13th: Queen’s Gate School
14th: Escrime Academy “Smiley Faces”

U15
1st: King’s School Canterbury
2nd: Brixton FC
3rd: Haverstock FC
4th: RGS Guildford
5th: Chelsea FC
6th: Escrime Academy
7th: KCSWHS FC

U17
1st: Redhill and Reigate Epee Club
2nd: RGS Guildford
3rd =: Queen’s Gate School
3rd =: Woldingham School

Thanks to all those who came along, especially those who refereed.

Jon

[jmayle]

Jon, what scoring system to you use for the teams event, we came several years ago but I can't remember, just remember it was very efficiently done.

The reason I ask is that we ran a regional team event using the swiss system, which was not well received by either coaches or parents, we need an alternative for next year and any advice would be greatly appreciated.

June

[roadie]

Jon and colleagues,
Another week-end of inspiration for lots of first time competitors on Saturday and plenty of fencing for all the U15s and U17s on Sunday.
Thanks. See you next year.

[miraberis]

team event using the swiss system, which was not well received by either coaches or parents

What is the Swiss system? Italian relays are the best way to go for team matches, surely?

[jmayle]

What is the Swiss system? Italian relays are the best way to go for team matches, surely?

Could you PM me with details please. It may be the same thing not sure.

Thanks
June

[JonM]

June, we use team relay to 45 hits (the Italian system I believe).

I plan on 3 teams per piste and no cut but it doesn't always work out that way. For example:

U9 had 12 teams: 4 x poules of 3 and DE to final.

U11 had 11 teams: 2 x poules of 4 and 1 x 3. Cut to 8 and DE.

U13 had 14 teams: 2 x poules of 7 and top team of each poule fenced off for the gold medal.

The intention is to give as many as possible lots of fencing.

Jon

[miraberis]

Could you PM me with details please. It may be the same thing not sure.

Thanks
June

Your inbox is full, so details here:


Italian relay is the format of team matches used in the Olympics. Universities also use it for the BUCS leagues and the London Team Trophy (one of the more successful team competitions in the UK) does it as well.

Teams consist of three fencers plus one reserve (usaually optional). Each fencer plays each fencer from the other team and the score is cumulative. Each bout lasts for three minutes or up until the NEXT lot of five hits.
Here is an example of how the scoring works in practice, GB's team match against Italy in the MTF at London:
http://www.london2012.com/fencing/ev...301/index.html
(Ignore the durations shown - they obviously relate to total duration including discussion of video replay and what-not. Each bout has max 3mins fencing time, as I said.)

The only other format I can think of is the 'aggregate of bouts' type system that the Excalibur uses (which I don't like).

Hope that helps!

[ED_R]

Many thanks for a much enjoyed weekend. Its always good.

Just the pride of the U9s as they showed off their medals tonight at training made it all worthwhile for me.

http://www.brixtonfencingclub.com/in...sults&Itemid=9

[jmayle]

June, we use team relay to 45 hits (the Italian system I believe).

I plan on 3 teams per piste and no cut but it doesn't always work out that way.
The intention is to give as many as possible lots of fencing.

Jon

Thanks Jon and Miraberis, this is what I thought, will let our comps committee know, the system that they used was similar to that used at Euro Cadet Champs last year and frankly didn't work. Much prefer this and will use it next time.

June