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    2012 LPJS Wimbledon Team Epee: Results.

    U9
    1st: Dream FC “A”
    2nd: Escrime Academy “Golden Blades”
    3rd =: Chelsea FC
    3rd =: Brixton FC
    5th: Escrime Academy “Musketeers”
    6th: Escrime Academy “Peanuts”
    7th: Escrime Academy “Gods of the Sword”
    8th: Escrime Academy “The Losers”
    9th: Escrime Academy “Golden Fencers”
    10th: Dream FC “B”
    11th: Escrime Academy “Invincibles”
    12th: Escrime Academy “The Stars”

    U11
    1st: Brixton FC “Thistle”
    2nd: Escrime Academy “Dragonfly”
    3rd =: Escrime Academy “Terminator”
    3rd =: Redhill and Reigate EC “Dragons”
    5th: Brixton FC “Academicals”
    6th: City of London Freemen’s School
    7th: Escrime Academy “The Wasps”
    8th: Escrime Academy “White Socks”
    9th: Redhill and Reigate EC “Devils”
    10th: KCSWHS FC
    11th: Dream FC

    U13
    1st: Escrime Academy “LOL”
    2nd: Brixton FC “United”
    3rd =: City of London Freemen’s School
    3rd =: Redhill and Reigate Epee Club
    5th : Haverstock FC
    6th: Durovernum FC
    7th: Escrime Academy “Swordfish”
    8th: Escrime Academy “Wildcats”
    9th: Brixton FC “City”
    10th: Chelsea FC
    11th : Escrime Academy “Totem”
    12th: Escrime Academy “Whatever”
    13th: Queen’s Gate School
    14th: Escrime Academy “Smiley Faces”

    U15
    1st: King’s School Canterbury
    2nd: Brixton FC
    3rd: Haverstock FC
    4th: RGS Guildford
    5th: Chelsea FC
    6th: Escrime Academy
    7th: KCSWHS FC

    U17
    1st: Redhill and Reigate Epee Club
    2nd: RGS Guildford
    3rd =: Queen’s Gate School
    3rd =: Woldingham School

    Thanks to all those who came along, especially those who refereed.

    Jon

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    Jon, what scoring system to you use for the teams event, we came several years ago but I can't remember, just remember it was very efficiently done.

    The reason I ask is that we ran a regional team event using the swiss system, which was not well received by either coaches or parents, we need an alternative for next year and any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    June

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    Jon and colleagues,
    Another week-end of inspiration for lots of first time competitors on Saturday and plenty of fencing for all the U15s and U17s on Sunday.
    Thanks. See you next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmayle View Post
    team event using the swiss system, which was not well received by either coaches or parents
    What is the Swiss system? Italian relays are the best way to go for team matches, surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miraberis View Post
    What is the Swiss system? Italian relays are the best way to go for team matches, surely?
    Could you PM me with details please. It may be the same thing not sure.

    Thanks
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    June, we use team relay to 45 hits (the Italian system I believe).

    I plan on 3 teams per piste and no cut but it doesn't always work out that way. For example:

    U9 had 12 teams: 4 x poules of 3 and DE to final.

    U11 had 11 teams: 2 x poules of 4 and 1 x 3. Cut to 8 and DE.

    U13 had 14 teams: 2 x poules of 7 and top team of each poule fenced off for the gold medal.

    The intention is to give as many as possible lots of fencing.

    Jon

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmayle View Post
    Could you PM me with details please. It may be the same thing not sure.

    Thanks
    June
    Your inbox is full, so details here:


    Italian relay is the format of team matches used in the Olympics. Universities also use it for the BUCS leagues and the London Team Trophy (one of the more successful team competitions in the UK) does it as well.

    Teams consist of three fencers plus one reserve (usaually optional). Each fencer plays each fencer from the other team and the score is cumulative. Each bout lasts for three minutes or up until the NEXT lot of five hits.
    Here is an example of how the scoring works in practice, GB's team match against Italy in the MTF at London:
    http://www.london2012.com/fencing/ev...301/index.html
    (Ignore the durations shown - they obviously relate to total duration including discussion of video replay and what-not. Each bout has max 3mins fencing time, as I said.)

    The only other format I can think of is the 'aggregate of bouts' type system that the Excalibur uses (which I don't like).

    Hope that helps!
    Last edited by miraberis; -19th November 2012 at 19:26. Reason: more info

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    Many thanks for a much enjoyed weekend. Its always good.

    Just the pride of the U9s as they showed off their medals tonight at training made it all worthwhile for me.

    http://www.brixtonfencingclub.com/in...sults&Itemid=9
    Edward Peck

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonM View Post
    June, we use team relay to 45 hits (the Italian system I believe).

    I plan on 3 teams per piste and no cut but it doesn't always work out that way.
    The intention is to give as many as possible lots of fencing.

    Jon
    Thanks Jon and Miraberis, this is what I thought, will let our comps committee know, the system that they used was similar to that used at Euro Cadet Champs last year and frankly didn't work. Much prefer this and will use it next time.

    June

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