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    Just a quick posting of good luck to all my old fencing buddies heading out to the World Championships in Livorno!!
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    Congrats to Graham on SILVER medal.

    Can someone tell me if the rules have changed? In the first period of the final, there was an off-target light at 2.13. Then at 1.44 (that's 29 seconds later) the ref calls for non-combativity and they're moved straight into the 2nd period.

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    Also to Sue Uff for Bronze.

    AFAIK the rule has not changed. He probably forgot the time of the off target and then got bored.
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    Fair enough.

    Graham looked a bit surprised when it was called but I figured as he didn't challenge it too much (very Un-Graham like!) he must have thought it was to his advantage!!!!
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    And Kola Abidogun gets a well earned SILVER medal in the MF +50.

    Got a bit of a schooling in the final unfortunately. Hey, Roman Christen used to make A Grade finals when he was younger!!!!

    Looks like good results in the Vets are going to get tougher and tougher!

    Well done so far guys!
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    GOLD medal for the Men's Foil Team.

    Beat the Russia team in the final 30-25.

    Great all round team effort. Well done guys!!!!
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    It was very exciting.
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    Good luck to the Ladies Foil Team in the Final at 5-30 our time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander View Post
    Good luck to the Ladies Foil Team in the Final at 5-30 our time.
    Gold!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkelephant View Post
    Gold!
    Clare Halstead with the winning hit with 7 seconds left. Which was a peach!
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    Way to go Ladies!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnL View Post
    Congrats to Graham on SILVER medal.

    Can someone tell me if the rules have changed? In the first period of the final, there was an off-target light at 2.13. Then at 1.44 (that's 29 seconds later) the ref calls for non-combativity and they're moved straight into the 2nd period.

    ????
    There appears to be some confusion. Is it possible that the Italians are using a different set of non-combativity rules?
    Posted this on fencing.net regarding Men's 60 epee:
    Two periods of non-combativity, Walter has priority and Fischer gets one touch in the final 16 seconds. Then as Walter has to attack, Fischer gets three more touches. That "sucks" though it does happen in this case Fischer was able to take advantage of the non-combativity. What I find curious is that the referee halts the play in the 2nd period with 2:20 left on the clock to call non-combativity. Someone check me on that?
    I thought it took 1 minute of no touches to call non-combativity and move to the next period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjefferies View Post
    I thought it took 1 minute of no touches to call non-combativity and move to the next period.
    Approximately 1 minute, also if both fencers simply step back away from each other, it can be called earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjefferies View Post
    There appears to be some confusion. Is it possible that the Italians are using a different set of non-combativity rules?
    Posted this on fencing.net regarding Men's 60 epee:

    I thought it took 1 minute of no touches to call non-combativity and move to the next period.
    That's only one criterion.

    Unwillingness to fight (non-combativity)
    t.124
    If one of the two criteria below is present, there is unwillingness to fight:
    1.criterion of time: approximately one minute of fencing without a hit
    2. excessive distance (greater than the distance of a step-forward-lunge) during at least 15
    seconds.
    When both fencers make clear their unwillingness to fight, the Referee will immediately call
    ‘Halt!’
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnL View Post
    Fair enough.

    Graham looked a bit surprised when it was called but I figured as he didn't challenge it too much (very Un-Graham like!) he must have thought it was to his advantage!!!!
    I didn't think it was to my advantage but thought perhaps that the interpretation of a hit had changed.(This has happened with 'rules like swerving loses the attacker the right of way) There were 3 FIE refs controlling the bout and I wrongly thought that they would know the rules! Also it was difficult to communicate with the referee. The lighting was so intense on the piste that the referee was invisible and it was difficult to hear what was being said over pa system.

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