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    Default New BYC Regional Qualifications Rules

    Just read the latest news

    https://www.britishfencing.com/wp-co...ion-2019-1.pdf

    Big change is more fencers will qualify for the BYC finals in May.

    2.3 Other:
    2.3.1 Qualification is calculated on 1 in 3, or part of 3, of those fencers actually fencing in the qualifying
    competition with a minimum number of 4. Please note that fencers who enter, but do not fence, are
    not counted in this total. This includes fencers eligible for byes.
    ENTRY INFORMATION FOR REGIONS: BRITISH YOUTH CHAMPIONSHIPS 2019
    Page 3 of 3
    Thus: Fencers Qualifiers
    16 or more 1 in 3, or part of 3
    1- 15 5
    Less than 4 All

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    Quote Originally Posted by jahl View Post
    Just read the latest news


    1- 15 5
    I think this should read 13 - 15 5 fencers

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    Default Number Change

    Whilst the number change maybe good?? but the cost per fencer entered into qualifier has now increased to £10.00 and per qualifier is now £35.00
    Year - Per Fencer - Per Qualifier
    2016 - £5.00 - £21.00
    2017 - £6.00 - £22.00
    2018 - £7.00 - £24.00
    2019 - £10.00 - £35.00

    This is on top of entry to your qualifier,

    Is this another problem for Brexit???????

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    Quote Originally Posted by jahl View Post
    I think this should read 13 - 15 5 fencers
    To get to the 4 minimum it should probably be the following.

    15 or more 1 in 3, or part of 3
    4 - 14 4
    Less than 4 All

    1 in 3 coupled with the fee increase probably increases the fee income.
    Looking forward to the perennial referee thread at some point ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akster View Post
    To get to the 4 minimum it should probably be the following.

    15 or more 1 in 3, or part of 3
    4 - 14 4
    Less than 4 All

    1 in 3 coupled with the fee increase probably increases the fee income.
    Looking forward to the perennial referee thread at some point ...
    Actually the part of 3 is interesting.

    12 or more 1 in 3, or part of 3
    4 - 12 4
    Less than 4 All

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    Default New BYC entry charge

    £35.00 per entry for a Youth Championship event? That is a 45% increase on last year. Who would support a letter of objection?
    For many youth it is their first venture out of their region. I thought we were moving away form the image of elitism. Average cost to parent from our region will be around £180.00 per day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by snak View Post
    £35.00 per entry for a Youth Championship event? That is a 45% increase on last year. Who would support a letter of objection?
    For many youth it is their first venture out of their region. I thought we were moving away form the image of elitism. Average cost to parent from our region will be around £180.00 per day!
    Plus the entry to the qualifier has £10 levy so that could be as much as another £30

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    Quote Originally Posted by itteacher View Post
    Is this another problem for Brexit???????
    From the Directors Report (other interesting things in the accounts too).

    Events
    This year we have made significant progress in reducing the losses in running BF Events and it is the Board’s
    continued strategy to move our BF Events program over time towards at least break even by running more
    events, increasing numbers and fees (where possible) and reducing costs, all subject to providing a quality
    experience for fencers.
    I assume this is a case of "where possible" ...

    Personally not sure why the £35 is collected by the regions as opposed to getting an invite to enter the BYC and ticking all the requisite disclaimers, etc. More clicks / more paperwork / more chase up / less entries ... The optics on paying for two competitions in one go are difficult. Or don't have the qualifiers at all and run like the Nationals - (think EYC's in a BREXIT age...)

    I get the feeling a trend is establishing around having a few competitions series (pick your weapon of choice), a few bigger opens (calendar/venue issues) and the Nationals (whatever the age group) and a few fun more accessible local/regional championships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mini Musketeer View Post
    Plus the entry to the qualifier has £10 levy so that could be as much as another £30
    This has increased from £7 in 2018. A large region like ours, another £650 to pass onto the fencer because we cannot swallow that one!

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