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    Default What happened to British Olympic fencing in the mid 90's?

    One of the things I enjoy about fencing in the vets is hearing tales of past exploits from our ex-Oympians of which there are quite a few!

    So looking up our past participation I saw (date - number of fencers):

    1968 - 17
    1972 - 19
    1976 - 18
    1980 - 11
    1984 - 20
    1988 - 13
    1992 - 15
    1996 - 2
    2000 - 3
    2004 - 2
    2008 - 3
    2012 - 8 home nation
    2016 - 4

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_...ympics#Fencing

    What happened in the 90's?!!

    I can't believe it was a sudden reduction in our fencing capabilities as a nation. Possible other reasons...

    A change in zonal allocation?
    A change in qualification rules?
    The introduction of professionalism by our European rivals?
    A change in funding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisHeaps View Post
    What happened in the 90's?!!

    I can't believe it was a sudden reduction in our fencing capabilities as a nation. Possible other reasons...

    A change in qualification rules?
    Total change in how people qualify for Olympics and a reduction in entry numbers for Olympics.

    From my understanding before that almost every nation could have at least one entry in an event, whereas in the 90s the qualification changed to take into account actual World Rankings and made qualifying very difficult for lower level European Countries..

    Add into that other countries having a long term professional set up for their top fencers, where we were amateurs there was a huge disadvantage for GB fencers.

    1984 was also an anomaly as that was when all the soviet countries boycotted the Los Angeles Games so extra spaces were available for other countries to gain spots, including GBR, following the 1980 US led boycott of the Moscow Games.
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    Did maximum team size for the team events reduce between 1992 and 1996?

    Looking at wikipedia and overall "fencing" team of other nations (italy, france, germany).
    (If the wikipedia entries are complete and to be believed.)
    It looks like the entry by nation maxed out at 20 pre-1996.

    It seems to now be around 16.

    Some nations seem to be stable around 20 (pre 1996) and 16 (1996 onwards).

    Will be interesting to see what happens in 2020 with the extra event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisHeaps View Post
    One of the things I enjoy about fencing in the vets is hearing tales of past exploits from our ex-Oympians of which there are quite a few!

    PS. Congrats on your recent win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akster View Post
    PS. Congrats on your recent win
    Thank you!

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    Info I picked up from unrelated facebook post.

    Pre-1996, there was no FIE or IOC qualification for the Olympics. Each nation was allowed to enter three individuals per weapon, and a team of five. The old AFA and the BOA used to agree what qualifying standard would be applied to British fencers.)
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